Center Link and ball Joints on Ebayers...

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Center Link and ball Joints on Ebayers...

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Center link ebayers number 290515171718

Ball Joints ebayers number 330511368400

He has other vw 412 search parts....Muffler, heads, tierod ends, clutch disc...
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Crap! I forgot to bid on these :evil:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 0289391897

Note the part number 411.412.165E on these. Ball joints with eccentric bolt! I have never seen these for sale before, and now i missed them :(
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I got these shipped to England... just waiting for them to arrive now, I feel more comfortable knowing I have a pair of NOS balljoints sat on my workshop shelf..
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Could you take some pics how they look under the boot? I've never seen these before and would love to see how the eccentric bolt was actually done. By the way, did you know these were something special, not just "ordinary" type 4 ball joints?
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I didn't to be honest, please tell me more...
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411.412.165E is a part number for ball joint with eccentric bolt. This means you can adjust wheel alignment with these. These ball joints were originally ment for cars that had been in a seriuos accident and needed improved alignment possibilities. Type 4's need more positive caster and these ball joints will alow this. I'm sure Ray Greenwood has ideas what you can do with these :wink:
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Ok I see...interesting, once they arrive I'll get some photos on here and we can discuss...

thanks..
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Lahti411 wrote:411.412.165E is a part number for ball joint with eccentric bolt. This means you can adjust wheel alignment with these. These ball joints were originally ment for cars that had been in a seriuos accident and needed improved alignment possibilities. Type 4's need more positive caster and these ball joints will alow this. I'm sure Ray Greenwood has ideas what you can do with these :wink:


Odd....never seen or heard of them. I will look in my part number microfiche list. The only way I can think that they could work is by having the pin ground eccentric on the ball. They would have to have the stud held in exact position while the nut is tightened until the stud locks in the taper bore.....or.....the flange where the 3 mounting bolts is...is machined at an angle with the holes drilled to match to allow a bit more positiove castor. Ray
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raygreenwood wrote:The only way I can think that they could work is by having the pin ground eccentric on the ball.
This is exactly the way i have understood it was done. But i'd still love to see how it was executed. I cannot remember where it was i heard about these ball joints but i got the idea it was done just the way Ray described.

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