Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

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Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

Post by tomtom » Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:14 pm

Had to rebuild engine after 10 years and 35k miles. The ceramic lifters look better than new. :D Too bad they are not available anymore.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4issm ... sp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4issm ... sp=sharing

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Re: Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

Post by JustMe » Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:06 pm

How does the cam lobes look? Pic? I have some in my Type 1 engine.

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Re: Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

Post by tomtom » Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:55 am

Cam lobes look like before no change at all. After cleaning all went back to the engine again.

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Re: Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

Post by Wally » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:26 am

This is exactly my experience as well. I used type 1 ceramics in my type 4 though.
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Re: Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

Post by CobraJet » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:51 pm

Wally wrote:This is exactly my experience as well. I used type 1 ceramics in my type 4 though.
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What is the secret to using T1 lifters in a T4, Bushings?

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Re: Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

Post by Arnoud » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:30 am

Hi!

There are now press-in bushings available from TP in Germany: http://www.tp-technologie.de/produkte%2 ... n%20en.htm
I've used them-I didn't even heat up the case just pulled them in with a threaded rod and some washers.

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Re: Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

Post by CobraJet » Sat Jan 14, 2017 5:52 am

Nice!

I could make a set but at that price why bother!

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Re: Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

Post by Piledriver » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:42 pm

Their tool steel lifters are well priced as well, esp with the current US/Euro exchange rates.
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Re: Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

Post by Clatter » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:16 pm

Those lifter bushings look tasty, too..

Wonder what the translation of "lifter bores lowered by 7mm" means..

I'm guessing that it means facing so the foot has clearance at lift.. Right?
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Re: Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

Post by Piledriver » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:33 am

Clatter wrote:...

Wonder what the translation of "lifter bores lowered by 7mm" means..

I'm guessing that it means facing so the foot has clearance at lift.. Right?
Thats how I read it
If you have a really high lift cam you still need to check, but you can always cut after the bushings are in, as long as you can also cut for the lifter head lower radius... The bushings likely have that built in.
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Re: Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

Post by tomtom » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:47 am

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4issm ... sp=sharingFound a picture of the cam just before putting the engine back together again. Nice polished finish!

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Re: Ceramic Lifters after 10 years of use

Post by sideshow » Sun May 14, 2017 10:53 am

Camshaft after about 7 years of daily driver use. I was over accelerating the Web 163 with VW 1.25 rockers.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwcUi ... FI5dVZXeWc

There really is no point taking a picture of the lifters, they appear to be unused.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwcUi ... ktYTG5yaGM

Looking at the lift it appears to be still there, pointy part is flat on top with no taper but I think that is normal.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwcUi ... lBBVkhGd2M

One of my better ideas was to take a cut off tool to the then brand new metal leve mains, looking at the oil stain.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwcUi ... lRwcmxBRVk
Yeah some may call it overkill, but you can't have too much overkill.

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