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Exhaust system.

Postby 58sleeper » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:32 pm

I'm thinking of buying this exhaust for my stock type 4 engine.. Does anyone know what kind of headers go on this?

http://store.vintagespeed.com.tw/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=garden_flypage.tpl&product_id=121&category_id=8&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=80

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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby 58sleeper » Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:14 am

I'm looking at Headers and it says CU or CJ engine. Does anyone know what these letters are referring to?
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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby Munchhausen » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:06 pm

These letters are the engine-code. CU and CJ are 2Liter engines from the vanagon.

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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby supaninja » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:40 pm

their heater boxes have the same flange to the muffler as the 72-74 bus/411 and 412's did.
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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby 58sleeper » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:13 pm

So, why do this company sell a CJ and a CU model of the same headers?

http://www.crengineering.de/shop/catalog/index.php?cPath=70_88
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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby 58sleeper » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:41 pm

Plus, I'm not finding CU and CJ engine codes.

Volkswagen Type 2

Code: Year: Engine:
Numerals 1961-1963 1200 (see Type 1 listings)
O 1964 1500 (no cam bearings)
H 1965 1500
HO 1966-1967 1500 (no crossmember holes)
B5 1968-1969 1600 (single relief)
AE 1971 1600 (with crossmember holes)
CB 1972-1973 1700 (dual carb, manual trans)
CD 1973 1700 (dual carb, auto trans)
AW 1973-1974 1800 (dual carb)
AW 1975 1800 (fuel-injected)
ED 1975 2000
GD 1976-1979 2000 ('79 has Vanagon heads)
GE 1979 2000 (California only, Vanagon heads)
CV 1980-1983 2000 (Vanagon -- unique case and heads)


Volkswagen Type 4

Code: Year: Engine:
W 1971 1700
EA 1972-1974 1700
EB 1973 1700 (California only)
EC 1974 1700


Porsche 914

Code: Year: Engine:
W 1970-1971 1700 (8.2:1 compression, D-Jetronic)
EA 1972-1973 1700
EB 1973 1700 (7.3:1 compression)
EC 1974 1800 (CA-only, 7.3:1 comp, L-Jetronic)
AN 1800 (8.6:1 comp, D-Jetronic)
GA 1973-1974 2000 (7.6:1 comp, 3 intake studs)
GB 2000 (8.0:1 comp)
VO 1700 (Euro-only, magnesium)
1800 (Euro-only, magnesium)
2000 (Euro-only, magnesium)
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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby 58sleeper » Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:05 pm

Got it..

CJ'76-'79 VW Transporterno information70hpEuropean market, solid lifter. dual carb,
CU1980-83 VW Vanagonno information70hpenclosed breather tower. Identical to the CV case, but used dual 34PDSIT carbs.
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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby supaninja » Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:43 pm

My guess is the CJ are the oval flanges and the CU are the square flanges. On the stock exhaust the late buses had a y-pipe as the heater box, maybe the CJ's used a different exhaust style then the US spec'd buses. I know the vanagons had square port heads but used a seperate pipe style like the earlier type 4's. I also noticed in the pics from that link, that they used the same photo for the fancy equal length one.
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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby wildthings » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:18 pm

They use the same pictures for both, showing flanges for oval port heads. Sounds like a call to the supplier or manufacturer is in order.
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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby 64 sunroof » Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:52 am

In Europe we had the 72-74 style heat exchanger and exhaust right till the end of the type 4 in 82. the only difference between <78 and >78 is the square ports on the head and therefore the heat exchanger.

worth noting that the CJ engine for the bay in 79 came with square port heads

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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby 58sleeper » Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:01 am

64sunroof and all of you guys.. Thank you for the information...

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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby 58sleeper » Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:24 pm

I wonder which code would be like GA/GB?
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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby Ove » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:22 pm

I'm bumping this thread - I also wonder
what type of headers fit on GB (100 hp) engine.
Will CJ or CU fit ?

Rgds
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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby English Lad » Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:42 pm

I used one of their bus super flow muffler's for my 79 bay running mild 2ltr. My application was bolted upto the heat exchangers, no problem with fit and is a higher than expected quality.No loss of power and much quieter than other so called performance exhausts.What exhaust system are you now running?Do you use heat exchangers or do you already have a header system in place and just want to replace the muffler.
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Re: Exhaust system.

Postby Ove » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:04 pm

I'm going to use this 914 GB 2.0L (100hp) engine in my Replica Speedster 356, but I'm wondering
what kind of headers to use. Vintage Speed says they have headers for CJ only.
But is CJ the same as the heads on the GB ? (will they fit ?)
There is something about rectangular and oval exhaust ports I think ?

Good to hear that the super flow is not too loud, I have not decided to go for their "sport" or "super" version...

rgds
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